tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post1594720429852859884..comments2023-09-15T02:40:58.916-07:00Comments on Move Along. Nothing To See Here.: Rules, Regulations, and RubbishFlintharthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17456024642528783549noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-38043586209723317932013-06-09T04:11:31.404-07:002013-06-09T04:11:31.404-07:00And this is the sort of reason I think our liberta...And this is the sort of reason I think our libertarian friends only see one dimension in a 4-12 dimensional universe.Damianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416701838142189998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-46328250928478483472013-06-09T02:04:14.817-07:002013-06-09T02:04:14.817-07:00...and a perfect example of the kind of law I woul......and a perfect example of the kind of law I would actively question, until I got a reasonable answer.Flintharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862235828346393495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-7878664750284909662013-06-06T22:49:40.911-07:002013-06-06T22:49:40.911-07:00If those making the rule/laws were smart enough it... If those making the rule/laws were smart enough it wouldn't be such a problem. Our Victorian knife laws are a fine example. I carry a knife as a tool however if that breaks the law I may as well carry one as a weapon thus the law actually has the opposite effect of it's intent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-59032635135453915892013-06-06T14:32:56.281-07:002013-06-06T14:32:56.281-07:00I should add - modifying the situation can mean li...I should add - modifying the situation can mean lifting constraints as much as imposing them. So if you come across a mysterious 40 zone well away from a school or obvious hazard, maybe it's been done to make that street more bike friendly. So mofidying expectations about the speed you can go on that street encourages more cyclists to use it, enhancing their freedom. This is not something a driver could be expected to decide for themselves, but it's an expression of policy and a positive thing still.Damianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416701838142189998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-21170397638125376452013-06-06T14:29:43.465-07:002013-06-06T14:29:43.465-07:00Not sure it's entirely correct to characterise...Not sure it's entirely correct to characterise the law as being about those unable to think through the consequences of their actions for themselves. Laws are the main instruments of policy. They create the framework in which such thinking is done. In Sartrian terms they are not a direct constraint on freedom, rather they modify the situation, the collection of constraints supplied by context.<br /><br />I do appreciate what you say about questioning and wanting to know the purpose for rules that you haven't come across before. They are not necessarily very well thought through (unintended consequences and all that). But that's to be expected since policy itself can be very unclear, so the laws that express it can be even more so. Damianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416701838142189998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-45469391884880594092013-06-06T05:59:42.027-07:002013-06-06T05:59:42.027-07:00Should have known it was the one on civil disobedi...Should have known it was the one on civil disobedience. He really got some great shit into that essay. I really must make it mandatory reading for my offspring.<br />Flintharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456024642528783549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-63333916961515255342013-06-05T15:52:03.223-07:002013-06-05T15:52:03.223-07:001849 Essay "Civil Disobedience".
And t...1849 Essay "Civil Disobedience". <br /><br />And that's what I mean in science the 'laws' listed above are all regarded as provisional until a better model is developed. <br /><br />In the case of thermodynamics/entropy its recognised as more a statistical expectation that even permits the temporary complete opposite of the 'law' ie a broken teacup might coincidentally reform itself as it bounces.Michael barneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08986102144813296339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-71152767936454209802013-06-05T14:31:53.397-07:002013-06-05T14:31:53.397-07:00Hey. I question those too, buddy.
Love the Thorea...Hey. I question those too, buddy.<br /><br />Love the Thoreau quote, however. Where'd you find that? It's bloody fabulous.Flintharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456024642528783549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485469691062620401.post-1322787493765142032013-06-05T06:27:58.235-07:002013-06-05T06:27:58.235-07:00Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the leas...Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right.<br /><br />Henry David Thoreau<br /><br />For me laws have a different meaning. Law of Gravity, Law of Thermodynamics, Law of Entropy. Michael barneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08986102144813296339noreply@blogger.com